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  • CAMERAwMUSTACHE
    CAMERAwMUSTACHE closed this thread because:
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    18:08, August 26, 2018

    Can we consider removing the "Leaked Songs" category?

    Reasons: The definition of "leaked" seems to be lost on the community. There are numerous differing definitions of what a "leak" refers to, and some even state that ESRB constitutes a leak even though it is an official source linked to Ubisoft itself.

    In addition, people consider prematurely revealing a song a 'leak', others may consider only the routine reveal a 'leak', and others believe that a deleted official source makes the thing a leak. This makes the definitions hairy.

    With the leaks arising in the 2019 era there is reason to tag "Leaked Songs" to literally every single category, but it is to my knowledge that the leaks community is already effectively aware of all the songs anyway without publicising the information. That's still a leak, hence contributing to the messy definitions.

    It also feels like a trivial category; knowing whether a song is leaked doesn't really add substance to the article as a whole. It's not "important" information.

    Let me know.

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    • SupportMe



      100% agree. “Meta” categories like this have never felt right to to me, and I agree it’s off topic/not trivial.

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    • SupportMe



      It's one of my favorite categories (not relevant), but it's true that its meaning is debatable and it is indeed a trivial category, so we could add a sensible trivia point to every article with the category describing what happened instead of making it sound clumsy by just saying "This song was leaked.".

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    • Y'all don't need to use the templates this is a message wall XD

      Anyway, ideally we could clearly define what is defined as a leak and only have those in the category but frankly that's not worth the trouble. Half the time I have to take a while going through the trivia to even find out how it leaked. Let's just get rid of it, and we should ban those no-GUI leaks too. Ubisoft accidentally posting something on their website early is one thing but posting assets of a game that isn't out yet (especially stuff that hasn't been revealed yet) is a violation of their policy.

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    • I'm gonna go ahead and say get rid of it, because way too many songs end up constituting as leaked by that broad definition.

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    • wig that's great

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    • CAMERAwMUSTACHE wrote:
      Let's just get rid of it, and we should ban those no-GUI leaks too.

      I'd be cool with this

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    • I guess by extension Leaked DLCs will also be deleted.

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    • Master Hydraffe wrote: I guess by extension Leaked DLCs will also be deleted.

      I don’t even know why those two were separate in the first place.

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    • Should we make an official announcement or start a decision thread or....?

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    • it's already been deleted but you can make an announcement thread (warning people not to re-add)

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    • It's already been removed from all the pages? That was fast. I'll make an announcement.

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